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  Has anyone here joined a different church after ditching the JWs?

  by NikL in

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  i am just curious.. i have a cousin who is a baptist and his church streams their sunday services and i've been checking them out before i go to meeting with my jw wife.. i haven’t been to a church except for the occasional funeral and wedding and the only sermons i had heard were the tel-evangelist type.

  anyway, all the church bashing by jws over the years made me unsure what to expect and i was pleasantly surprised.

  they do use the bible and they don't spend the whole time begging for money.

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  The Searcher

  "Religion is a snare and a racket."

  Probably the only profound and true statement ever to come out of JFR's mouth!
  
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  Propaganda video from the society. How are your donations used?

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  2. beliefs

  oh wow....how manipulative, especially for young ones.. first prize goes to whoever can state the one aspect of society expenditure that this video fails to mention!.

  https://tv.jw.org/#en/video/vodourorganization/pub-jwbrd_201505_1_video.

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  Massive legal fees for lawyers who defend the org's paedophile lawsuits?
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  Hello

  by S K Ditta in

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  hello everyone.. have visited this site several times over the past year or so.. thanks for letting all have an opportunity to interact.. hope that, words uttered result in good - now or later!

  that's the wish..

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  The Searcher

  Welcome S K Ditta. I hope you benefit yourself and others by joining us here.
  
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  Hello

  by snowbird in

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  2. friends

  just want to say hello.. trying to master my new tablet given to me by my grandson.. yeah, i am bragging.. lol.. sylvia.

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  The Searcher

  Good for you, Sylvia. The fiddly little screens drive me nuts, so I stick to PC's!
  
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  Catching up on the A.R.C.

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i haven't been here for several days, so apologies if similar comments have been posted regarding messrs spinks' & o'brien's "spiritual & scriptural" replies to the australian royal commission last week.. perhaps this line of questioning by mr. stewart could have helped exposed the org's corruption of the "two witness" rule:.

  mr stewart: mr. spinks, does the jehovah's witnesses' leadership base their "two witness" rule solely on the bible?.

  mr. spinks: yes.

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  The Searcher

  I haven't been here for several days, so apologies if similar comments have been posted regarding Messrs Spinks' & O'Brien's "spiritual & scriptural" replies to the Australian Royal Commission last week.

  Perhaps this line of questioning by Mr. Stewart could have helped exposed the org's corruption of the "two witness" rule:

  Mr Stewart: Mr. Spinks, does the Jehovah's Witnesses' leadership base their "two witness" rule solely on the Bible?

  Mr. Spinks: Yes.

  Mr. Stewart: Child abuse is at issue here, but can this Bible "rule" be adjusted or changed for different serious sins?

  Mr. Spinks: No it cannot, it applies to all serious sins.

  Mr. Stewart: Let me reword my question; in order for elders to proceed with disciplinary action against a member of the congregation, are two witnesses of the person's sin always required?

  Mr. Spinks: Yes.

  Mr. Stewart: Mr. Spinks, in view of your answers, as a senior member of the Australian Branch of Jehovah's Witnesses, are you unaware of your organization's "rules" that if two people see a member of the opposite sex entering another person's home and then leaving the following morning, an assumption that sexual intercourse has taken place will be made, and both parties will be subjected to disciplinary action based upon that assumption - not upon eyewitness testimony? Also, that Jehovah's Witness elders can accept the testimony of one witness to a serious sin, if another witness can be found to a similar but separate sin by the same accused person? You stated earlier that the "two witness" rule - as J.W.'s apply it - is based on the Bible. Would you reveal to everyone here, exactly where in the Bible the two variations I've just cited, appear?
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  Which is worse according to the GB: Child Abuse or Apostasy??

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  2. beliefs

  so we all know how the organization conducts itself regarding child abuse.

  the multitude of legal cases worldwide including the current australian royal commission as well as anecdotal accounts prove their attitude.. perpetrators have not been reported to authorities, and data bases of such have been kept sealed even when demanded by the courts!.

  however, when it comes to those of us who have simply left the organization due to learning the truth, the society spares no effort in spreading gossip and ensuring that one's name and reputation is ruined.. so gb, which crime is worse?

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  The Searcher

  No contest, Stuckinarut!!!!!!!!

  Even vandalism of a Kingdom Hall is worse than a J.W. child being raped/sexually abused - as proven by the wording of the November 1st 2016 Branch letter to all bodies of elders:
  

  "Break-ins, thefts, incidents of arson, or other acts of vandalism should be promptly reported to the local authorities."

  Crimes against their real estate must be reported "promptly" to authorities, but not paedophilia!
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  March 1, 2017 BOE Re: Update on Local Design/Construction Arrangement

  by wifibandit in

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  2. beliefs

  march 1, 2017 to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory re: update on local design/construction arrangement.

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  The Searcher

  Thanks again WiFibandit.

  It shouldn't be too long before the Britain Branch releases a video to update U.K. J.W.'s on the wonderful progress being made by the LDC as it shrinks the size of the new Britain Branch complex at Chelmsford - as well as "reminding" the U.K. blinded on how they can support the project's contraction!
  
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  Wish me all the best

  by LevelThePlayingField in

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  so i called in to my local walgreens pharmacy to get my blood pressure medicine refilled.

  i go to the pharmacy to pick it up and they tell me that the doctor has denied filling it saying to them, "prescription refill not appropriate".

  i asked them what that means and they say you'll have to contact your doctor on that, sorry.

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  I wish you success as you tackle your problem, LTPF.

  Many of us here are on a similar road to yours, dealing with struggles of one kind or another - even if we can't/won't discuss it.

  You're definitely not alone, so never feel as if you are.
  
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  Australian Child Abuse Royal Commission - Jehovah's Witnesses and Watchtower to appear on 10 March 2017

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  latest date just published for case study 54, jehovah's witnesses and watchtower.

  the public hearings will commence friday 10 march 2017 at the child abuse royal commission's hearing rooms in sydney.. http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/10908a67-70c5-4103-94cc-dac096fdb585/case-study-54,-march-2017,-sydney.

  the scope and purpose of the public hearing is to inquire into:.

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  The Searcher

  I completely trust the expertise of the A.R.C. to continue to see through any smoke & mirrors which the org may again try to use as deceptive/lying measures.
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  Observations from an Ex-Elder Part 1

  by doubtfull1799 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was thinking about the fog model this morning, particularly about the "obligation" part.

  my mind went back to the last elders school i went to.

  one of the parts in the section on appointments was discussing how we should not place too high a bar (human standards) for brothers to try and jump over when we are considering them for appointment as a ministerial servant.

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  The Searcher

  The org can't quantify good Christian deeds for their Yearbook statistics, so taking care of "widows & orphans" is totally irrelevant when compared to zombie-trolley "witnessing."